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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 1, 2012 6:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

I'm afraid that you're asking for the kind of decency and self-restraint that Breitbart himself did not possess. This is the same guy who, only hours after Ted Kennedy's death, called him a "villain," a "prick," and a "duplicitous bastard."

"I'm more than willing to go off decorum to ensure THIS MAN is not beatified,” Breitbart wrote. “Sorry, he destroyed lives. And he knew it."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26475.html

Tell me again why his critics should hold their fire?

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Poster: rastamon Date: Mar 1, 2012 8:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

of course Ted Kennedy "destroyed lives. And he knew it". Just another political hack- but of course!I'm sure there was family and peeps that loved him

Personally, I thought Kennedy was a despicable drunkard. So there ya go, we all love our "hero's and demonize those we despise. My comments AND yours prove that.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 1, 2012 9:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

Once again, those are HIS words, not mine. Who exactly did I demonize? I was just pointing out the irony of what he said in light of what micah said to open this thread. His words. Maybe that's all it takes.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Mar 1, 2012 9:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

I'm sorry, but decency and self restraint are traits that should never be dependent on the display of those traits by others. One cannot control the civility, nor the lack thereof, of another but can exercise self control.

Regardless of how despicable an individual may seem, there are those who see that individual as a son, a brother, a husband, a father and/or a friend. It is therefore prudent to temper one's words and defer judgement to a higher power.

There is more truth than poetry to the old quote, which over time has been attributed to many different speakers and/ or writers, “There is so much good in the worst of us, and so much bad in the best of us, that it ill behaves any of us to find fault with the rest of us.”

Peace to all who assemble here.


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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 2, 2012 5:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

Bill, I have been thinking about your admonition to show some restraint when, for lack of better words, speaking ill of those (usually of some note) who have recently died.

Why does it get a bit rough and tumble sometimes? I think b/c we write things on the net we would never say face to face. But, I also think it is the only time that as a forum we will look back and voice our opinion of someone's career. There is no other time that Breitbart or Houston or maybe even Jobs will be discussed: at least as intensely or in depth as when they pass. Frankly, after this thread I doubt whether Brietbart will ever be discussed again (those clapping in the back, pipe down :-)

Maybe some is wisdom and being able to recognize the general humanity and frailties that we all have that is bought with age. Maybe there is also a generational and cultural divide brought about by all the communications electronia we use. The pace has picked up and yesterday's news is not even used for wrapping fish, it's just gone. Sometimes that morning's news too. It's not to say that any of this is particularly right or wrong, it is the effect of the tools we use. Maybe when Skype is a real time hologram, or something similar yet invented, this will change back. Maybe it won't. Maybe our faith life, whatever that is or isn't, informs how we react publicly.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Mar 2, 2012 6:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

"Why does it get a bit rough and tumble sometimes? I think b/c we write things on the net we would never say face to face. But, I also think it is the only time that as a forum we will look back and voice our opinion of someone's career."

I agree, but I think that is exacerbated by the general "if you're not with me you must be against me", and the "if you disagree with me you're a complete moron who has no right to use my precious oxygen" attitude that permeates our day to day life. Sadly respect and civility are dead, or at least dying. And is because of this that the "look back" leads to more than an opinion of the career. It spirals quickly into vitriolic personal attacks that are quickly embraced, and expounded upon by forum members of like persuasion. Of course those in disagreement feel the need for retaliation in kind. A harsh word leads to a face slap, which leads to a kick in the crotch, which brings out Red Jacket Firearms flame cannon( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-Lb5nQbqdg ). There are no winners in war only survivors, and often they are permanently scarred. A bit of basic human respect, and some restraint can defuse many of those situations.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 2, 2012 8:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

I would only point out, with respect, that the advice to always see the good, never speak ill lest you be a judge, works in reverse: it makes you seem as if you cannot make a value judgement, that all is relative, blah, blah, blah.

Rather, I think the three of us would agree, life is in fact the place where everyday we do make judgements, and in fact have to...that's what in the end makes life worth living. Micah to homeschool, me to not (I view education, ironically, as all SOCIAL til college). IE, by three, Bill, micah, Tell.

Clearly you'd all agree Hitler was a child, a son, but deserves no such lack of judgement passed, right? Lots of folks DESERVE our judgement, because only by judging do we make moral decisions.

Goes with the territory, right?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Mar 2, 2012 9:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

Well, I would never judge some dithering, senile old professor on an internet forum...

But I will proudly state that I honestly believe I'm a bigger asshole than Dire.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 2, 2012 9:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

Conservative pundit (and critic) David Frum addressed this issue yesterday, I think quite eloquently.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/01/andrew-breitbart-1969-2012.html

Andrew Breitbart, 1969-2012

“Of the dead, speak nothing but what is good.”

It’s an ancient rule and a wise one, but one that does not do justice to the life and career of Andrew Breitbart, dead today aged 43.

It is impossible to speak nothing of a man who traced such a spectacular course through the contemporary media.

But to speak only “good” of Andrew Breitbart would be to miss the story and indeed to misunderstand the man.

The good was there. Breitbart was by all accounts generous with time and advice, a loving husband and father, and a loyal friend. One of those friends, Arianna Huffington, wrote today: “All I can think is what Andrew meant to me as a friend … his passion, his exuberance, his fearlessness." Breitbart was unquestionably passionate and was exuberant.

If by “fearless” you mean perpetually eager for confrontation, then yes he was fearless too, although in a very particular way. Nobody would ever describe Andrew Breitbart as a man of “quiet courage.” He delighted in the enraged outburst, the shouted insult, the videotaped jab of a finger into an opponent’s chest.

Andrew Breitbart was an innovator and inventor, a man who as much as any shaped the media culture of the Internet age. He was present at the creation of the Drudge Report, the Huffington Post, and of course his own popular sites.

Yet perhaps Breitbart’s most consequential innovation was his invention of a new kind of culture war. Until recently, the phrase “culture war” mainly described the political struggle over religion and sexuality. When Pat Buchanan declared a “culture war” from the rostrum of the Republican convention in 1992, he specifically cited abortion, gay rights, pornography, prayer in schools, and women in combat as the outstanding issues.

Those were not the issues that much interested Andrew Breitbart. On gay rights, he held almost the polar opposite view of Buchanan’s in 1992.

In fact, it’s hard even to use the word “issues” in connection with Andrew Breitbart. He may have used the words “left” and “right,” but it’s hard to imagine what he ever meant by those words. He waged a culture war minus the “culture,” as a pure struggle between personalities. Hence his intense focus on President Obama: only by hating a particular political man could Breitbart bring any order to his fundamentally apolitical emotions.

Because President Obama was black, and because Breitbart believed in using every and any weapon at hand, Breitbart’s politics did inevitably become racially coded. Breitbart’s memory will always be linked to his defamation of Shirley Sherrod and his attempt to make a national scandal out of back payments to black farmers: the story he always called “Pigford” with self-conscious resonance.

Yet it is wrong to see Breitbart as racially motivated. Had Breitbart decided he hated a politician whose ancestors came over on the Mayflower, Breitbart would have been just as delighted to attack that politician with a different set of codes. The attack was everything, the details nothing.

This indifference to detail suffused all of Breitbart’s work, and may indeed be his most important and lasting legacy. Breitbart sometimes got stories right (Anthony Weiner). More often he got them wrong (Sherrod). He did not much care either way. Just as all is fair in a shooting war, so manipulation and deception are legitimate tools in a culture war. Breitbart used those tools without qualm or regret, and he inspired a cohort of young conservative journalists to do likewise.

In time, Andrew Breitbart might have aged into greater self-control and a higher concept of public service. Premature death deprived him of the chance at redemption often sought and sometimes found by people who have done wrong in their lives and work.

And this is where it becomes difficult to honor the Roman injunction to speak no ill of the dead. It’s difficult for me to assess Breitbart’s impact upon American media and American politics as anything other than poisonous. When one of the leading media figures of the day achieves his success by his giddy disdain for truth and fairness—when one of our leading political figures offers to his admirers a politics inflamed by rage and devoid of ideas—how to withhold a profoundly negative judgment on his life and career?

Especially when that career was so representative of his times?

We live in a time of political and media demagoguery unparalleled since the 19th century. Many of our most important public figures have gained their influence and power by inciting and exploiting the ugliest of passions—by manipulating fears and prejudices—by serving up falsehoods as reported truth. In time these figures will one by one die. What are we to say of this cohort, this group, this generation? That their mothers loved them? That their families are bereaved? That their fans admired them and their employees treated generously by them? Public figures are inescapably judged by their public actions. When those public actions are poisonous, the obituary cannot be pleasant reading.

David Frum is a contributing editor at Newsweek and The Daily Beast and a CNN contributor.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Mar 2, 2012 10:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

I think Mr. Frum has just illustrated the point I have been trying to get across. He acknowledges that by speaking only good of Andrew Brietbart would be to dismiss part of the man. He goes on to speak both good and bad, but never does he descend into the vitriolic and disrespectful.

One can speak one's mind without dropping feces on another.


**steps down from soapbox and exits room(for now)**



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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 2, 2012 1:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

Hmmm... Well, he did call him "poisonous." I don't know if that's disrespectful or merely accurate.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Mar 2, 2012 3:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

"poisonous"..not poisonous POS nor poisonous mother f'er

restraint tempered with basic human respect which in no way indicates respect for the individual

Dr, Suess once said, "Today I shall behave as if this is the day I will be remembered."

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Mar 2, 2012 3:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

I just quoted that philosopher for my daughter's elementary school yearbook: "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

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Poster: user unknown Date: Mar 2, 2012 10:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

"Lots of folks DESERVE our judgement, because only by judging do we make moral decisions."

Absolutely, but those judgements do not necessarily have to be aired publicly, nor do they have to be framed in such a way as to jeopardize one's own moral fiber. Simply choosing not to "speak ill of" isn't necessarily "only seeing good", nor does it signify support and adoration. One can see evil and combat it without becoming equally as evil.

Tact, decorum, respect, restraint, call it what you will it isn't a bad trait


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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 2, 2012 10:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

Point taken; BUT, I'd retort that the moral life indeed does demand that we publically stand up, speak out, and blah, blah, blah, on a regular basis.

Deciding when, and over what issue, sure--lots of wiggle room. That's ONE of the moral decisions I speak of--and trust you make the right one, if I may be so presumptuous, more often than I.

Good chatting, Bill--as always.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 2, 2012 1:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

I was going to bring up the Big H. himself as an example of speaking one's truth of the dead immediately. However, so few fall into instantaneous infamy and most, regardless of notoriety, are good folks just trying to get by. Where does that line, once reserved for only the infamous, now lie? Across the professional media, to us here, many had strong opinions when Steve Jobs died. Opinions that sometimes weren't at all flattering. Is the line at some level of fame? In our families?

WT, I haven't heard the socialization reason in a while. The real place homeschoolers are week is science and math.

E- The last sentence ought to read " H/s are weak in science and math." Apparently some parents of H/s are weak at spelling and grammar.

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Mar 2, 2012 9:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

"WT, I haven't heard the socialization reason in a while. The real place homeschoolers are week is science and math. "

This is why my wife, with a biochemistry degree and math minor, is a homeschool consultant. She runs her own business teaching homeschool kids the stuff their parents do not have the content knowledge to teach.

She wants to enable the parents to take back control of their children's education - ie make it about education not the social agenda of either side of the aisle. A population of educated individuals will make the right, even if unpopular, choices. Life is not a popularity contest...especially these days when the media exagerates the levels of extremism.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 2, 2012 2:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

My brother was not given tenure at a local high school. So he being a math/science guy (his masters is in marine biology) began teaching at a few homeschool co-ops we belong to with about 100 families if combined. Because of his skill set between that and many tutoring gigs (@$50 a pop) he is now a free agent educator who isn't forced to join a union, can charge what he wants for his services, and can make all the basic choices that any entrepreneur would face (Do I want to travel for that tutoring. Do I want to work on Tuesdays, ect.). He is a much happier man.

Now his views on teaching for 4 years at a prominently white, upper middle class high school vs. his homeschooling gigs is quite illuminating.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 2, 2012 10:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

Yeah, I hear you; tough line for sure...oh, and home schooling? Tried it, and damn near killed us!?! Seriously, much, MUCH tougher job than folks imagine.

You have my praise for sticking with it, and best of luck (I do think there is no "right/wrong" on this issue, in general, I was using it as a means of illustrating you and me make judgements about society, protecting our kids, preparing them, and this involves deciding, at some level, "this, X, is bad; while this, Y, is good...or at least, better").

What I was getting at with "school as socialization" was I sorta agree with Rasta (just a little) that it's a trial by fire kind of thing (socialization via school). And, unless parents are really good about pushing social interactions with other kids--like I am sure you two do--they can end up being socially inept, blah, blah, blah.

Not the BEST way to do it, for sure, and school is a NASTY place, I agree, but we decided on a mixed model, so to speak, with frankly, more of the school than home school cause it was too much work!? Wife esp, since of course, I was out in the field, chasing snakes, getting tenure, etc.

Maybe we wimped, and latched onto the socialization biz to rationalize it all?

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Poster: high flow Date: Mar 2, 2012 10:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

I have a cousin who was home schooled by her elitist yuppie parents. The entire family worried so....she was behind in reading and not getting the exposure(good and bad) to other kids........blah x 3.

She is now a lovely young lady attending University of Maryland.

You never can tell.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 2, 2012 10:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

Yes, this is one unfortunate aspect of living long enough to see all your trivial judgements about how relatives and friends were raising their kids, and you were so convinced they were doing it "wrong" only to find out that good and bad (if we accept I can do that, as you did with your cousin--and I am sure you right about her "turning out well") kids emerged from all manner of childhood rearing methodologies, and I can't look back with nearly the number of "I told you so!" smug remarks as I'd have thought back then, ya know?

Really pisses me off.

;)

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 2, 2012 2:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

Can I hire you to make a few phone calls to various family members of ours? I am soon going to face a shit storm when I tell them that we are not going to send our eldest to a public/private high school. I was dead set (I still like that Fire out of Space) for him going two months ago, but after much I am persuaded that it wouldn't be the best for him. Of course, these various family members (whom I do hold dear) you will be contacting do obviously know what is best for him. I'll even fly out if your payment requires it. :-)

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Mar 2, 2012 9:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

How do they do on spelling?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 2, 2012 10:19am
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Ahem--this is why we didn't stick with it...can you imagine me teaching anything to do with writing?

Just ask RingLeeO!

;)

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 2, 2012 7:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

I don't think the majority of children, not to say anything about their parents, have any idea how to show restraint. It's one of the top reasons we home school. We put a ton of effort into our kids and we want them to be around other kids whose parents do so as well. I look at my own behavior at times in this forum and read what I have written and give myself a WTF? Sometimes worse.

(smooth segue) The vid. reminded me that the life expectancy of a flamethrower in the Battle for Okinawa was 5 minutes and I can think of so many bad ways one can go.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Mar 1, 2012 8:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

Shit! I had Rush Limbaugh in the office pool - better luck next time.


Back to my Pat Robertson countdown clock...

Honestly, this struck the right tone:
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-last-word/46598857/#46598857securedownload-12.jpeg

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Mar 5, 2012 7:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart - my bad

Looks like my clock is still ticking - and I apologize to those in the path of tornadoes for my lack of action on their behalf
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/05/pat-robertson-tornadoes-prayer_n_1321686.html

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Poster: rastamon Date: Mar 1, 2012 8:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

in other words, you wish him dead, so there you are! Obama, Clinton & Carter could take a long walk off a short pier and I'd dance on their graves...so f'n what? We all bee haters -lol.

Countdown clock?...hahahaha!!

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Mar 2, 2012 6:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

whats about the BUSH'S!

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Mar 2, 2012 6:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: duh, very non dead

A tree toad loved a she-toad
Who lived up in a tree.
He was a two-toed tree toad
But a three-toed toad was she.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Mar 2, 2012 4:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

Bill Maher, Michael Moorer, Sean Penn and a shitload of other ultra lowlife libs are on my countdown clock too. All you have to do is look at their eyes and feel their spirit (if you can discern it) to see the evil that lurks within. A lot of ultra-lib's claim compassion but most are as cold as ice and very unforgiving haters - lol.

I'm sure Hitler and Stalin, both murderous, evil thugs, were sweet & loving to their families and some friends...

Evil people hate the truth that could set them free

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 1, 2012 7:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

Believe me when I tell you that my previous post took TONS of self-restraint. Those are his words, my friend. If it helps to make it more palatable, you can think of it as a kind of tribute.

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Poster: Pauldog Date: Mar 1, 2012 7:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

Breitbart didn't know that he was writing his epitaph with those words, just like Dick Cheney didn't know that his words "reprehensible" and "dead-ender" would best be applied to himself.

p.s. WWRHW (What would Robert Hunter write) ?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 2, 2012 10:53am
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"WWRHW?"

And how many of us would over-interpret it, with great flair and dare I say, melodrama?

;)

[Methinks we'd be able to go on, and on, and on about it, eh?]

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Mar 2, 2012 11:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

While I would never disrespect the dead and their grieving family by calling the deceased names like "villiain," a "prick," "a big ass MotherF***er,"or a "duplicitous bastard." that is exactly what Breitbart said about Ted Kennedy after his death.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Mar 3, 2012 6:19am
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"While I would never disrespect the dead and their grieving family by calling the deceased names like "villiain," a "prick," "a big ass MotherF***er,"or a "duplicitous bastard."

A previously posted quote seems appropriate here.

"You, sir, have a kind heart!"...rastaman

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 3, 2012 11:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

Not a bad little thread, eh Bill?

Sometimes the old Forum will surprise ya, esp given how much some of us old farts (you excluded) complain about its downfall, loss of continuity, blah, blah, blah.

Wonder if any of the Forumites were home schooled? Some of the youngsters? deniro? Maxchorak? I think Rasta was schooled at the Livermore Fast Food Conservative Consortium, Tracy Outpost for the Right to Bear Arms while in the Drive Through.

JK, CC!

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Poster: user unknown Date: Mar 3, 2012 2:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

"I was schooled with a strap right across my back."

And this did become quite the thread. I am surprised at the level of civility maintained by most...well maybe not really surprised.

"I think Rasta was schooled at the Livermore Fast Food Conservative Consortium, Tracy Outpost for the Right to Bear Arms while in the Drive Through."

rastaman reminds me of a conservative sociology prof I had freshman year of college. He liked to denigrate, though in a respectful manner, the whole "youth revolution" ideology of the late 60's. Every day the class met, I began passing his desk, flashing the SDS fist and greeting him with, "Comes the revolution."


http://www.antiauthoritarian.net/NLN/images/sds_fist.jpg

After a month or so of this, hes stopped me one day and said, in a voice the entire class could hear, " You know, it is quite possible that you and I will one day look at each other from opposite ends of a gun." My reply was, "And I will put a flower in the barrel." The class got a good laugh, and I replaced the fist with the Peace sign in my daily greeting to said prof.

http://lapetitefloridienne.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/peace-sign3.jpg

We remained friends for years and I still see him once in a while.

{graphics for the younger forumites;)}

So rasta if we ever meet at the opposite end of a gun, I will be placing a flower in the barrel and wishing you, "Peace."



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Poster: rastamon Date: Mar 7, 2012 9:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

"Also, I know if Rasta was holding the gun he'd be using it to blow the smoke through the barrel"

that's pretty accurate!haha, but shhhh...you're ruining my image

and BD, I'm pret near uneducated - schoolwise. I prob graduated with the lowest GPA ever at Livermore High
D+ i think.I LOATHED homework and even flunked a couple of PE classes. Then after the Army I had a 4.0 GPA at Chabot JC till I dropped out after a year to pursue concerts & a life of frivolity - of which I now pay dearly.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Mar 7, 2012 10:02am
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How would I even start to ruin your image? It's not like I'm unwilling to revise my opinions. I just added a few days to the countdown clock:

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/03/07/Pat-Robertson-Decriminalize-marijuana/UPI-60941331142172/

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Poster: rastamon Date: Mar 7, 2012 10:11am
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for me too? that works for me! I don't pay attention to Pat, he smiles too much, but the link looks interesting.

Wtf?!!! Pat R is for decriminalization?? I'll open that link.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Mar 7, 2012 10:41am
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on his prayer/weather remarks, I was at an Eric Clapton show in 92 at the shoreline and it was raining and very windy. I was on the lawn with a couple of friends and we could not lite a pipe or joint, then it came to me to command the wind to stop -haha. So I commanded "Stop wind" and it did, thereafter, every time I attempted to lite up it worked! Then the wind would start up right after. It was amazing to me and blew my friends away. The God of ganja smiled on me that night. A true story.

it's never worked since.

Imo, aside from religious explainations, "Prayer" is a real & viable force of science and nature

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Mar 7, 2012 10:25am
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Yea, but interestingly, he blames liberals for the punitive drug laws in this country.

And you may be "uneducated" (which I doubt), but you are certainly no one's fool (other than your own).

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 4, 2012 7:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

That is a very cool story, Bill; thanks for sharing. Great one.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Mar 3, 2012 11:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

And to think I thought that Rasta had no education whatsoever!

Just goes to show, you never can tell....


BTW, I know Rasta knows when I'm messing with him. He's one of the good eggs.


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Poster: user unknown Date: Mar 3, 2012 2:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

I've thought rasta was pretty cool since he threatened to arm himself, kick the door down at Deadhook and lay waste to those long-haired Communist hippies that banned dire and nagdot. Maybe he is John Wayne reincarnated.

"BTW, I know Rasta knows when I'm messing with him."

I can only hope this holds true for me as well

"He's one of the good eggs."

seems to be

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Poster: rastamon Date: Mar 7, 2012 9:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

I remember that...now. Yeah, I was a bit pissed about dire being banned, we must have been bro's on some other plane of existence. I like everyone in this thread, even snow & rain :)

Btw, I hope the guy who got hit at the OWS Oakland demo is doing well. Can I play my "I was out of ganja card" ? well, I was...hey now, it aint ez being +64yrs old, it's stressful at times (the age card)
Oh, and that Ft Collins radical is very kind too :)

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Mar 3, 2012 2:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

Of course it does. And my estimation just went up tenfold with your fist to peace salute change. Tom Haydnen and some other SDS folks from back in the day have been a big help for both Global Majority and Bill Monning - whose getting ready to make transition from California State Assembly to State Senate Run.
Also, I know if Rasta was holding the gun he'd be using it to blow the smoke through the barrel.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Mar 1, 2012 7:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

Please re-read my post. I have edited it to more closely reflect my intended meaning. My use of the pronoun in my second point made it sound much more personal than I intended it to be, and for that I apologize.

As for taking your Brietbart quote as a tribute, I will quote Det. Ricardo Tubbs, from his first meeting with Senor Grocero in Cartegena, "If that is what you think you should do."

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 1, 2012 8:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RIP Andrew Breitbart

No worries, I didn't take it personally.